Interview with Joey Varone of the Body Care Clinic
I had the honour of interviewing Joey Varone, a colon hydro therapist from Body Care Clinic in Toronto, for a whole hour! We talked about his unique and challenging professional and personal lifestyle. He's a musician, wheat grass and sunflower sprouts grower and colon hydro therapist.
How does he do it all?
Hello, and welcome to the Women’s Health Academy, the source for women over 40 to conquer food addiction, to lose weight and take control of your eating habits broadcast. So my name is Nancy Desjardins and this week we are going talk about the colon care. So to make the most out of a cleansing health program, I recommend a colonic during and after the program. I’m sure you know how much I love talking about the most import organ in our body, so here’s a reminder of why this is of such importance. I know you probably have lots of questions about what a colonic involves and why we can benefit from the procedure.
So it’s been part of my lifestyle for the last 12 years. As the seasons change I usually do a 7 to 12 day body cleanse, like four times a year and go for a few colonics, which really speeds up the process. The colon is one of the most important but, unfortunately, least talked about organ in our body. So when a healthy colon operates normally toxic waste gets eliminated; instead of backing up into the system and even spending time and effort on dieting or exercise is often not enough. The toxicity affects the way we feel, both emotionally and physically.
Okay, so I won’t get too graphic because I’ll let somebody else describe the procedure. So my special guest today is Joey from the Body Care Clinic from Toronto, who is a colon hydrotherapist.
Nancy: Joey, you are amazingly healthy. You live and eat very well we can tell by the way you look, you look younger than your age. Could you tell us about your background and how you got interested in this lifestyle.
Joey: It all started with me years back when I was about 13. I was already in a touring act that was going right across North America and pretty much, being thrown into that at a young age, you end up getting involved in things that you shouldn’t be doing. Meaning -- the partying and that whole lifestyle and it didn’t take long before that whole lifestyle pretty much put me in a bad way with my health.
Nancy: We had a chance to talk about your background and you said “touring”. I think that would be interesting to know with whom?
Joey: I used to be the lead singer of a trauma act by the name of The Dice and basically at that time - this is back in the very early 80s and they were already touring. They had a record contract and were affiliated with The Rolling Stones at that time. They had seen me in one of my performances in a club show and they liked what they saw, so they asked me to join with them and I did. Once I got involved with all of that it didn’t take long before, you know, hanging out with the wrong crowd and partying with people and that, you end up in a bad way and then you have to figure out how to reverse things.
Nancy: You were only 13 years old at the time?
Joey: Yeah, I was 13 and I actually ended up with The Dice by the time I was about - in between 13 to 16 years of age. I started off in a trauma band called Hot Rocks, which a lot of people might know, which was a “Stones clone” band at the time. Then I ended up with The Dice and pretty much have been on the road on and off, even up until this point.
Nancy: So, what happened?
Joey: A lot of partying and that’s what got me into trouble, a lot of partying, and what happened was I ended up with a condition that today we’re very familiar with - an irritable bowel. Back then, they weren’t that up to speed with that type of a condition. So it really put me in a bad way. I was having to cancel shows and wasn’t able to function on a daily basis, so going from specialist to specialist and nobody could give me any answers or help me.
More than anything, I had to figure, all right, what do I do now? It’s like is this where it all ends? So I started reading books and I came across some books from Dr Herbert Shelton, which a lot of people are obviously aware of, Arnold Ehret, Dr Carey Reams, Bernard Jensen, Norman Walker and pretty much everybody talked about at some point the raw food diet.
So at this point, when this actually had me at my worst, I was about 17 and I was looking at this raw food diet. Everybody is talking about these raw foods in some way. Herbert Shelton was really big on it, right. So I thought, okay, let me implement this in my life and see what happens. What have I got to lose? And I did and already right at that point, within a matter of a month, I saw huge difference and then after that I started to do a lot more research, started to do a lot more investigating in things such as the colon irrigation itself and I ended up finding a place down in Toronto, the Wolfe Clinic that I ended up going to to do a serious detox with. Went there, had it done and, once I had it done, it was like my life changed right there, like with the raw food diet, doing a really good cleanse with the colonics. I completely turned into a different person. Everybody noticed it. Right away people were like, “What are you doing? You look so different.”
Nancy: we’re going back 25 years ago?
Joey: Yeah, easy.
Nancy: The raw food movement and colonic was not well known at the time, so you were very lucky.
Joey: Yeah, and if you even mentioned it people looked at you weird, right.
Nancy: Absolutely :) I can relate to that.
Joey: Yeah, so it was a big step for me, but I knew I had to get healthy. I really wanted to get back on track for many different reasons, (a) because I didn’t want to be sick. Of course, nobody wants to be and (b) with my career and that, I thought, well, if I don’t get healthy I don’t have a career, right, with the music industry, that’s for sure and that’s always been my dream, to be involved in music. So once I addressed all that and then I corrected my problem, then I thought, you know what, I really like what this is all about and I wanted to get involved in it myself and I did and the rest is history and it worked on thousands of people in between that period of time.
Nancy: Before we get into that, could you talk a little about your relationship with Mick Jagger and his diet? Not a lot of people know about his lifestyle.
Joey: Mick Jagger, a lot of people obviously are in awe of Mick Jagger because we see this very big persona and he’s probably the most incredible performer that we’ve ever had in the entertainment field. A lot of people think that Mick Jagger is the crazed drug-induced person that he was 25 years ago. The truth is completely opposite to that. Mick Jagger, from what I understand, has all his food blended. He’s very very big on the raw foods. I’m not 100% sure if he’s totally raw, but I’d like to think that he’s probably as close as it can be to that. He’s up at 6.30. He works out every single day. His workouts consist of working out with weights and running. He does all types of dance exercises and things like that as well. He also does a lot of vocal exercises. So the next time that anyone sees Mick Jagger and they see how incredible he is, it’s because of all the hard work that he does and, let’s not forget, he’s 64 years old, right.
Nancy: you are the younger version of Mick Jagger. You look so much like him.
Joey: That’s what a lot of people say. A lot of people always related me to being a cross between Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison and Steven Tyler which is pretty funny because, growing up, I was always a very very big Elvis Presley fan and it was my dad that was a big fan of The Rolling Stones and The Animals and all the other bands and the Beatles and that, but for me it was always Elvis. That’s what inspired me as far as wanting to sing and then later on in my life, once I was about 11 or 12 years old, I was already listening to a lot of rhythm and blues and that. I was already playing harmonica.
I was already light years ahead of everybody else with music that way and I would sit in front of my record player and I would listen to all these old cats playing and really trying to pick everything up and, of course, going through a lot of the Elvis material and I got an opportunity to play with, which ended up being the Hot Rocks band and I went down to audition with them and I remember the audition until this day. I went down and the asked me if I knew - pretty much what they asked was, “What material do you know”, and I said, “Well, I now a lot of blues”, and they said, “Well, do you know any Rolling Stones?” I said, “Sure”, and they tried to see where I was at, whether or not I was real or if I was just trying to put them on and they said, “Well, do you know Stray Cat Blues”, which is an obscure song from The Stones. I said, “Yeah.” I said, “Which version would you like to do, the live version or the studio version?” Their guitar player started to laugh. He laughed at me because they were all much older than me.
So anyway we did the song and we did a few more and we took a break and they said to me, “Well.” They made up a list and they gave me the list and it was all a bunch of songs. It was all Stones’ songs and he said, “Well, anybody ever tell you that you look like a cross between a young Steven Tyler and Mick Jagger”, and I said, “Well, yeah, I’ve heard that”, right. So he gave me all these Stones’ songs. So he says, “Go home, learn this and then we’ll get together the following week and we’ll see where this all goes.” So I did that, learned all the songs, came back. We rehearsed everything. Six months after that we were playing at huge venues right across North America and that’s where it all started.
Nancy: Joey, You’re one of the few people I know that look definitely younger than your age.
Joey: I’m a firm believer that diet is definitely the biggest part of it, but then always keeping a really good attitude is the other part of it too, right. It’s too easy to let things get you down or get you upset, so you’ve got to really try to have a handle on that because you can produce just as much, if not more, acidity with your thoughts and your feelings than you can by the food you’re eating. So you’ve got to be careful of that, right.
I’ve got 1500 square feet in my basement that I converted into a growing area for the sprouts and the wheatgrass and the difference between what we’re doing here with the Ocean Water is that normal grown wheatgrass or sprouts already - I mean if you’re doing that, you’re already light years ahead of everyone else. The only difference with the introduction of the sea water is that the sea water is in perfect balance and it contains all the nutrients that the plants need in order to deliver all the nutrition that we need to us and we do it at about 2000 parts per million. I mean we could do it higher than that, but there’s no need for it. We’ve gotten results with the grass and sprouts as far as, let’s say, taste goes, as far as having shelf life in the refrigerator goes, much longer. I’ve had sprouts last in the fridge for over 14 days and they still look really good.
Nancy: It’s so easy to grow them and fun too.
Joey: Yeah. Well, the reason that we ended up doing those, Gino came to me when he decided that him and his uncle wanted to get involved with ocean grown and he came to me and he said, “Well, you’ve got experience with growing”, because my growing experience goes way back with Colleen Allison, which was a very good friend of mine and everybody might remember Colleen Allison as the woman who opened up Super Sprouts.
Nancy: I remember Colleen! A Wonderful lady.
Joey: She was good friend of mine and pretty much when Colleen came back from The Hippocrates Health Institute, I had an opportunity to learn with her how to do it the right way. So this is going way back and Gino said, “Well, you’ve got this expertise because you’ve been growing them for so many years, like you know the difference.” I said, “Oh yeah, I’ll know the difference.” So he brought me a sample of the Ocean Water and I grew a couple of trays of grass and a couple trays of sunflower greens with it and there was no comparison whatsoever. I was totally blown away, the taste, the texture. You would do a shot of the wheatgrass and you could just feel it go through your body. It was crazy.
So I called up Gino. I said, “Gino, there’s no comparison. We have to grow this food this way.” The thing is now what Gino is trying to do is he’s trying to get the farmers to grow all our food with it. That’s what we’re really pushing for because if we get all our food grown with the Ocean Water, we’re going to be in a really good place as far as our health goes, every one of us.
Joey, before we get to the colonic procedure, could you describe your diet?
Joey: I blend a lot of my food and it’s funny because people ask me, “What do you eat all day long”, and I always think back to the question, “Well, I don’t eat that much.” I know it sounds crazy, but me and Gino laugh about it all the time. If I sit down and I’m in company and I want to eat, then we can go through a couple of big bowls of salad no problem, but my normal week day, getting up in the morning and between me leaving my house, coming to work, going through my whole day, I’ll start off my morning, as soon as I get up I’ll have my 6 to 8 ounces of wheatgrass juice. Then I’ll blend up a shake, so that I can have it for later on and that will consist of the sprouts, maybe some organic broccoli, avocados, coconut butter. I’ll throw some enzymes in there. Sometimes I’ll put some hemp seed oil or hemp protein in there. What else?
Nancy: That’s very nourishing.
Joey: Yeah, sometimes some spinach.
I’ll blend that all up and I’ll just take that in a container and I’ll drink that obviously till I finish it and then I don’t have anything, other than maybe sometimes I’ll have like a couple of handfuls of almonds throughout the day and then I won’t have anything till my day’s done and I’ll have, let’s say, a bit salad in and around 7 o'clock, 7.30, something like that and that’s not all the time because if I’m running up to the studio and that I don’t want to eat and sing after because it doesn’t sit right.
Joey: Yeah, that’s the way I pretty much - that’s my every day eating schedule. When I first got into the raw food, going back, I mean it takes time. Once you become so balanced because of the all nutrition that is in the wheatgrass and the sunflower greens, your body doesn’t need as much food. So you find yourself eating less and less as time goes on and, like I said, if I want to and I’m in company and you’re sitting, of course, you like to talk and you sit and you share a big salad together and you can end up going through a couple of bowls, but other than that...
Nancy: Joey, you’ve been doing this for more than 25 years. So it took some time to get your body to where you’re at.
Joey: Yeah, it is so important.
Nancy: What is a colonic?
Joey: A colonic is it’s pretty much a glorified enema. Everybody understands the concept of an enema, which is using purified water to gently cleanse out the large intestine. What generally happens is a person comes and we take them into the room and they have towel that they’re able to cover themselves up with. There’s an abdominal massage that’s administered during the session all the way through. The reason why we do this is to gently help to get things moving and just to give me, as a practitioner, an idea of what’s going on with a person and, once we’ve got the water flowing and everything is pretty much moving, you just lie there comfortably, or as comfortably as you can possibly be, and every once in a while we’re going to tie off the larger tubing because there’s two tubes, one that’s coming out from the actual inverted tank itself and the other one that’s going out to the sewage system.
Now we close of the larger tube so that the person’s bowel will fill up with the water and then, once you feel that you’re full, you just give us the cue in order to release. Whatever has to come out is going to come out and I always tell people it’s slightly uncomfortable because obviously it’s not a procedure that we want to have done, okay, but it should not hurt. So you’ve got 45 minutes to an hour that you’re on that bed and pretty much I yet have to see a person get off and not be shocked by what they see being expelled.
Nancy: Could you explain the difference between Colonic machines?
Joey: Absolutely. Well, there’s units out there that look great. When you walk in there it all looks really high tech and they tell you that it’s controlled pressure. Well, the only controlled pressure that you want is the downward flow of the water flowing downward through gravity. You don’t want a unit that has a compressor attached to it that they can regulate the amount of pressure that the water is travelling into the bowel under. Anytime that you do that you’re basically encouraging things to move a lot quicker and you’re putting pressure in the bowel itself. Most people that have had it done that have come to have the gravity fed method done me have said it was a horrible experience. Now if you don’t know any better, you just think that that’s the way it’s done and you don’t know, but then you have something like this done and say, “Gee, why is this so easy?” It’s not totally 100% comfortable, but it’s nowhere in comparison to that.
Joey: The difference is that because the water is going in nice and easy, at about one and half litres to two litres per minute, and if your bowel were to constrict it could literally stop the flow on its own. So you don’t really feel anything, unless I’m pinching of the larger tube, which is allowing the water to fill up inside you, but now allowing it to escape. Then you feel pressure, but I mean at that point you just say, “Joey, release it.” I will let go of the tube. Whatever it is that wants to come out is going to be expelled, but the difference is like night and day. It really is. You’ve had it done the other way, right, Nancy?
Joey: Yeah, when it’s done with this method it really is - put it this way, you’ll go back and you’ll continue to have it done when it’s done the right way. When you have an experience like that, I’m sure it’s scared a lot of people off, for sure.
Nancy: How often would you recommend a colonic?
Joey: I say that if you’re on your journey to cleansing yourself out, I tell everybody, “Do some type of a detoxification program. I know that you educate a lot of people on doing that and I’ve seen a lot of people because of you and I encourage that everybody, once you’ve got the body cleansed out properly, the main question is how many colonics does it take in order to clean out the bowel? Well, I’m at that point where now, worst case scenarios, I usually can have most people cleaned out within a series of about 10 of them. Sometimes I can do it inside five, depending on how bad the person is. Once the bowel is cleaned out, then it’s up to you. You can pretty much have it whenever you’d like to have it; you want to have it once a month, once every two months. If you’re really taking care of yourself, you’re eating raw foods, you’re doing all the great things that you should be doing then you’re fine. It really is up to you. You have people like Dr Norman Walker that were doing two a day. He would do one in the morning and one in the evening before going to bed.
Joey: Yeah, and a lot of people are not aware of that, but I had an opportunity to meet a lot of people that were very close to Dr Norman Walker and Dr Bernard Jensen and they told me first hand that this is what he was doing.
Nancy: I have his book in my office.
Joey: What I typically do with people is I’ll have them come in twice a week. I’ll have them come in once at the beginning of the week and once at the end of the week. I find that over the years of me being involved as a practitioner and just my research and working on thousands of people, I’ve found that that’s the way people respond the best because what happens is that the first one is pre-soaking. So you’ve got 40 gallons of water that just went through them on a Monday. Now you’ve got them back on, let’s say, a Friday and now you’re putting another 40 gallons through. The bowel hasn’t had enough time to dry up again, so all that mucous is not going to get all hard in there because it just doesn’t have enough time. So now we’re bombarding the bowel with that much more water, so we tend to really get things moving.
Nancy: And what could you do to prepare yourself prior to the colonic, beside drinking a lot of fluid.
Joey: Eating a lot of greens because you want to make sure that you’re driving all the acidity out of you body. So you want to really get a lot of greens going through your system so it starts to sweep everything downward and, like you said, a lot of water. Then on the actual day of the colonic, two hours prior to having it done, the best thing to do is have nothing to drink and nothing to eat and you should get your best results at that point.
Nancy: what is the difference between drinking coffee or having the coffee as an implant?
Joey: drinking it, it has the same effect as putting it in as an implant. Reason why is it’s a toxin to the body. It’s a poison. So the body, the liver, does not like it. It wants to right away get rid of it. So this is why when people drink coffee they say, “Well, I’ve got to have my morning coffee because it helps me go to the bathroom.” Well, yes, it does do that, but in the same token it turns your pH totally acidic as well too, which is very corrosive to your organs. Using it as an implant, we just let the coffee go in as a trigger. It triggers the liver to let go because we have what’s called a portal vein in the large intestine. So some of that coffee gets pulled up into the blood stream, carried to the liver and then the liver doesn’t like and starts to go spastic and pushing all the toxins out. It’s also starts the peristaltic action of the bowel in motion as well too. Now having this done this way, you don’t have all the ramifications that you have when you drink it.
Joey: This was one of the main things that Dr Max Gerson used, the coffee enema in his therapy with cancer and a lot of other ailments. You might want to go and check it out on the internet as well.
Joey: Dr Max Gerson said there was not a stronger liver detoxifier than doing a coffee enema and once I heard him speak about that, actually I should say when I actually heard his daughter, Charlotte speak about it, and read it in his literature, in his books, it just made sense to me. So in implementing it with the clients, I saw the results with my own eyes. So it was something that I totally believed in and that I wanted to continue to use with everyone and also same thing with the wheatgrass as well too, nothing better than an ocean grown wheatgrass implant.
Nancy: Wheat Grass Implant! Okay… that is so cool☺
Joey: It’s part of it. Sometimes people are a little sceptical because they don’t know what to expect and, if it’s all new to them, they may not want to do it, but you try to convince everybody that it’s the right thing to do and by having a wheatgrass implant you’re helping feed the good bacteria in the system. You’re helping to remove all the acidity and bring pH back into the bowel. You’re driving nutrients into the blood stream. You’re helping to purge the liver as well with the grass. So between the grass and the coffee you’re doing a lot of good.
Nancy: What would be the one book that you would recommend for colon care?
Joey: There’s two books. There’s Dr Norman Walker’s book, Colon Health, and Dr Bernard Jensen’s book, Dr. Jensen's Guide to Better Bowel Care. One of the two, because they’re, as far as I’m concerned, they’re definitely my mentors in the field and there’s Dr Bernard Jensen’s book, Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Movement - I can’t remember exactly what the name of the book is. Any one of them will do.
Like you said earlier on, that as far as all the organs in our body, that the colon itself is definitely by far the most important organ. It’s the first organ that’s developed in the fetus. It’s the most important organ in every way in the sense that whatever you’re putting into your mouth is going to get delivered to the rest of you body via the colon and if the colon itself is not able to function the way it’s supposed to function, every day, if you’re not able to go to the bathroom, you’re constipated and you’re backing these toxins up into your system, then you’re setting the stage for disease. So it is so important that people educate themselves about this particular organ.
Nancy: There’s no excuse. With our technology and information available for us.
Joey can be reached at BodyCareClinic.com. That’s the website. You’ll find the address of the clinic and they can call you 416.740.0049
Joey, it's been such a pleasure. It's a real honour to have had the opportunity to interview you today, and have you share your insights with our listeners.
Well, that is all for this week and I hope you enjoyed the interview and go ahead and get yourself a colonic. So have a great week.